Glenn George’s one regret? That she never learned how to dance. Not too bad considering the scope and depth of what she has been able to accomplish: University of North Carolina undergraduate and Harvard University graduate degrees, three daughters who would make any parent proud, first lady to the College’s president, professor at top-notch universities.
p. The list goes on. Yet meeting Glenn immediately puts you at ease. Our conversation at the Daily Grind felt more like a lunch date with an old friend than an interview with the first lady of the College. We both sipped our chai teas as she told me about growing up, her family and some of her experiences since arriving at the College. I couldn’t help but think of it all as a real-life fairy tale.
p. Glenn grew up in Charlotte, N.C. and attended UNC as an undergraduate. “It was a state school and cheap; it was only $250 a semester, if you can imagine such a thing. It was a great school and an obvious choice at the time.” Although Glenn’s mother tells her she declared that she wanted to be a lawyer at the age of eight, Glenn speaks openly about changing her major during college — from wanting a Ph.D. in psychology and political science to deciding she would earn her J.D. at Harvard Law School.
p. Her change of heart was in part due to evolving opportunities for women. “I don’t know that I was really committed to psychology, and the Ph.D. route was a much lengthier process than a J.D. I think some of it was that women were just starting to go to law school and so my desire was tied in to wanting to do something that was more challenging. Not that a Ph.D. in psychology would not be challenging.”
p. Her entry into law would eventually lead her to the College, where she would meet her husband, College President Gene Nichol. Her law career is marked with extraordinary experiences that laid the foundation for her many roles today. While at Harvard, she worked with the Harvard Voluntary Defenders — an association through which licensed attorneys train and guide law students in helping defend individuals charged with crimes. The investigative work and advocacy are two practical skills she uses daily as first lady of the College, a devoted wife and mom and a law professor.
p. Fairy tales are rooted in couples who fall in love at first sight. But this was one area in Glenn’s life that required greater circumstance. She and Gene could have met eight months earlier when she applied for a job at West Virginia University, but their paths did not cross until both were professors at the College in the mid ’80s.
p. While she wouldn’t commit to calling it love at first sight, (“You would have to ask Gene that.”) Glenn admits that after dating just one month, they decided they were going to get married. She acknowledges that this quick decision is not for everyone, but for them it was logical.
p. Glenn and Gene’s wedding ceremony was in Long Creek, N.C., right outside Charlotte where Glenn’s mom grew up. They were married in the church that her grandfather helped build, and she wore her grandmother’s wedding dress.
p. Her marriage has brought Glenn many places and given her new opportunities to grow. She and Gene left the College in 1988 when Gene became the dean of the law school at University of Colorado at Boulder. Glenn taught half-time for the first year and then full-time for the following 10 years they were there. In 1999, they moved to Chapel Hill when Gene became law school dean, and Glenn taught there for seven years.
p. Returning to the College after 18 years was like a dream come true. “Our first daughter was born here in Williamsburg,” Glenn said, laughing. “She was born at the community hospital that was just torn down for the School of Education. It was sort of a coming back to where things had started … our marriage and our family.”
Being on campus brings back memories of what college meant to her. Glenn says her favorite College tradition is Convocation.
p. “People use these college years to begin to understand who they are, and Convocation is the start of that process. It marks the beginning to your life and adulthood. The possibilities are set out, and I just love to see how it’s done in such a ceremonial way. I find it even better that when the incoming students get to the other side, they are not just faced by a few faculty members and friends, but by hundreds of students who have come to cheer for over an hour. I think it’s a wonderful celebration which marks a terrific passage.”
p. Just like the students who walk through the Christopher Wren Building, Glenn has walked into the College community. Living in the president’s house has brought her much visibility, but she said it is more fun than she initially anticipated. “It has been terrific. It is a beautiful house for starters. It is wonderful living right on campus and having students stop by periodically. Our cats and daughters love it.”
p. The increased visibility has taken a little getting used to. “The exposure can be hard. There will be people around every time you step out of your house. … It’s not terrible, but it takes getting used to. Fortunately when I take the dog out for a walk in the morning, it’s still dark so people can’t see so well to judge. I don’t think people are waiting outside our door or anything waiting to scrutinize us. At least I hope not,” Glenn laughed.
p. Glenn’s foremost job, she said, is that of a dedicated mother. Her eyes light up every time she talks about her three daughters, and most of her responses are, in some manner, related to their well-being. When asked what one thing makes her day, Glenn responded that it “would have to be when my daughters have good days. When things are going well for them, it makes my day.” In fact, she tells me that a perfect day would end with a nice, long dinner with her family. To Glenn, her daughters always come first. Gene’s first year as the president of the College was also their oldest daughter’s senior year in high school. Instead of moving to a new school for the last year, Glenn remained in North Carolina with their daughter so she could finish high school and attend graduation and prom with all of her friends.
p. People say that it’s challenging to have it all. For Glenn, having it all means being able to devote her energy, passion and expertise into helping her family, her students and her husband. In spending time with Glenn, one experiences a generous and intelligent woman who touches all those she meets with her spirit, enthusiasm and love of life.