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Future decisions of the U.S. Supreme Court will focus on topics such as corporations and wartime executive powers rather than on popular social issues, according to former New York Times reporter Linda Greenhouse.
Greenhouse, who covered the nation’s highest judiciary from 1978 to 2008, spoke at the College of William and Mary Tuesday during a three-day visit to campus as the 2010 Hunter B. Andrews Fellow in American Politics.
She has participated in most of the Marshall-Wythe School of Law’s annual Supreme Court Previews in the last two decades and currently teaches at Yale Law School.
Greenhouse began by discussing the recently decided case of Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, a 5-4 decision in which the majority ruled that corporations have broad First Amendment rights, especially regarding political advertisements. The decision struck down part of the McCain-Feingold Act of 2002, which in part prevented corporations from running political advertisements prior to elections.
“It changed the rules a little bit, [but] I don’t think as drastically as has been portrayed,” Greenhouse said. “But it was a strong statement about the First Amendment rights of corporations to participate in the political system. What’s interesting about it is the public became quickly engaged by this. The public remains engaged by it, which is pretty unusual.”
The Citizens United decision has been unpopular with the public, with some polls showing that as many as 80 percent of people disagree with the court’s action. In an unusual move, President Barack Obama criticized the decision in January’s State of the Union address.
“The Supreme Court reversed a century of law that I believe will open the floodgates for special interests — including foreign corporations — to spend without limit in our elections,” Obama said.
Although Greenhouse refrained from discussing the political implications of the Citizens United decision, she noted her own legalistic objections to how the Supreme Court handled the case, siding with Justice John Paul Stevens’s dissenting opinion.
“What I found most disturbing about what the court did with Citizens United was, as Justice Stevens said, they helped themselves to the ability to decide the whole ball of wax — in this case, to strike down the governing precedence in this area of campaign speech,” Greenhouse said.
The court initially heard arguments in the case during its 2008-2009 session on narrow legal grounds.
“The case seemed to be quite narrow,” Greenhouse said. “Citizens United argued that, ‘Even if the law did apply to us, it doesn’t apply to the kind of speech that we’re attempting to engage in, which is the video-on-demand movie. That’s not what McCain-Feingold is talking about. McCain-Feingold is talking about, you know, really dangerous, little 30-second spots that skewer somebody. We made a movie, and if you properly interpret the statute it doesn’t apply to us.’”
According to Greenhouse, Citizens United could have also argued that, as a non-profit organization, the law did not apply to them, another narrow approach that would have maintained judicial minimalism.
However, at the end of its term, the Supreme Court ordered the case reargued on basic constitutional grounds.
“Nobody asked them to do that, and it’s a very, very activist thing to do because the court typically, you know, they wait to be asked,” Greenhouse said. “They’re not a legislature who can go roam the countryside and construct an agenda. They sit to resolve disputes, concrete disputes under Article III of the [U.S.] Constitution.”
One forum attendee asked if there were any other cases in which the court had redefined the grounds of a case. Greenhouse cited the 1989 civil rights case of Patterson v. McLean Federal Credit Union, but noted the rareness of such an action.
“It’s happened a few times, but it’s really unusual, and as far as I’m concerned it strips away the fiction that this is not an activist court,” Greenhouse said. “This is a very activist court, and I think it’s a court that will do whatever the five votes on that side want to do.”
The Supreme Court has had a number of cases regarding executive wartime power and detaining prisoners at Guantanamo Bay, Greenhouse said, further defining the landmark cases in the court’s docket.
She cited specifically a recent situation involving a group of ethnic Chinese Uighurs who were caught up in terrorism arrests but ultimately found to be innocent by the Bush administration. The executive branch was uncertain as to where to release the Uighurs, who could not be returned to China due to fears of prosecution. Both former President George W. Bush and Obama objected to releasing the men into the United States, and the Uighurs’s case was almost decided by the Supreme Court before the United States agreed to release them into Palau and Bermuda, making the case moot.
“Simply by saying they wanted to hear the case, the court did set in motion this sequence of events that compelled the administration to really look under rocks and find a home for these people who had been detained by that time for more than seven years,” she said. “So the court has a kind of a power, even when it’s speaking so softly you can hardly hear it.”
Greenhouse argued that the Uighur case illustrates the current relationship between the executive and judicial branches.
“The Supreme Court basically, in a series of cases since Sept. 11, has rejected every claim of the president, no matter who the president was … to define the regime under which people will be held at Guantanamo,” she said.
Such a shift in focus awaf from social issues such as abortion or gay rights, was difficult to foresee, Greenhouse said, and will likely affect the next appointment to the court.
“Who would have anticipated, a year ago, when Sonia Sotomayor was nominated for the vacancy created by the retirement of Justice [David Souter] that this would be the set of issues?” Greenhouse said. “Not abortion, not some of the hot-button social issues, but something kind of as foundational as the role of the corporation and the role of big government.”
Greenhouse also addressed the timely topic of appointments to the Supreme Court. Stevens, who will turn 90 years old in April and has served on the court since 1975, announced recently that he will retire within the next three years, potentially at the end of this term. His retirement will essentially ensure Obama at least one more appointment.
Greenhouse said presidents can react to Supreme Court vacancies in two ways.
“They can see it as an opportunity — which is clearly what President [Ronald] Reagan did when he tried to put [Robert] Bork in — an opportunity to change the law, or they can see it as a problem to live through and solve and get on to your legislative agenda, or whatever else you really want to do, and I think President Obama’s the latter, not the former,” Greenhouse said. “I think he’s going to try to find somebody who is sort of on-the-face confirmable and not going to take a lot of time and energy because he’s got things he wants to do legislatively.”
Greenhouse said a “creative” appointment would be Harold Koh, the State Department’s senior counsel and an “out-there progressive” who has used international law to help interpret domestic statutes. Although he would be the first Asian-American on the court and ultimately confirmable, Greenhouse said the appointment was unlikely.
“I don’t think President Obama is going to want to do the heavy lifting,” Greenhouse said.
Diane Wood, a federal judge on the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals in Chicago, Ill., is a likely candidate who would be easier to confirm. Greenhouse said Wood would be more easily confirmed because she is not strongly ideological.
Nevertheless, Greenhouse noted any such appointment would not shift the ideological balance of the court, as Stevens is generally considered among the liberal justices.
“Again, this is not a game-changing vacancy,” Greenhouse said. “The real, real heavy lifting will come when one of the conservatives in the five-justice majority — or Justice [Anthony] Kennedy, as the swing justice — when they retire, that’s when you make the kind of change that happened when Justice Sandra Day O’Connor was replaced by Justice Samuel Alito. That changed a lot.”


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Although the use of the term “Chinese Muslim” to describe Uyghurs has decreased somewhat in recent months as the international community has gained a better understanding of Uyghurs’ identity and the oppression they face, the Uyghur American Association (UAA) remains concerned about the still frequent use of the term in the international media. Uyghurs are not, in fact, “Chinese Muslims”, and this term is inaccurate and misleading. UAA encourages the media and other organizations to refrain from using the term “Chinese Muslims”, and instead simply use the term “Uyghurs”.
The Uyghur people, who are indigenous to East Turkestan (also known as Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region in the People’s Republic of China (PRC))[i] speak a Turkic language and possess a rich and distinctive culture that is closely related to that of their Central Asian brethren, in particular the Uzbeks. The more than 10 million Uyghurs who live within the PRC are ethnically and culturally distinct from the dominant ethnic group in China, known widely as the Han Chinese. Uyghurs are also ethnically and culturally distinct from the approximately 10 million Hui Muslims who live in northwest China and other areas of the PRC. Hui Muslims are generally considered to be ethnically Chinese, and they speak the Chinese language.
Referring to Uyghurs as Chinese Muslims, then, is akin to referring to Tibetans as “Chinese Buddhists”. The Tibetan people, whose own struggle for human rights and the preservation of their unique culture has many parallels to that of the Uyghur people, are culturally and ethnically distinct from the Han Chinese. To refer to Tibetans as “Chinese Buddhists” would confuse them with the many ethnic Chinese Buddhists living in China and elsewhere around the world, and as the international community has long been familiar with the identity of the Tibetan people and their plight, this inaccurate terminology is never used.
Perhaps most importantly, Uyghurs do not refer to themselves as “Chinese Muslims”, regardless of whether or not they are Chinese citizens or whether they are living inside the borders of the People’s Republic of China or in other countries around the globe. UAA believes it is of fundamental importance to respect the terminology that an ethnic group or population uses to refer to itself, and give Uyghurs a voice in shaping their own identity. Furthermore, even the Chinese government, which has sought to dilute Uyghurs’ culture and assimilate Uyghurs into Han society, refers to Uyghurs by using the Chinese word for “Uyghur” and not by the Chinese word for “Chinese Muslim”.
Uyghurs choose to use “East Turkestan” to refer to their homeland, and not the official designation of the region by Chinese authorities in 1955 as “Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region”. Similarly, Tibetans choose to refer to their homeland as “Tibet”, and not “Xizang Autonomous Region”, the name officially imposed on the region by the Chinese Communist government in 1964.
Use of the term ‘East Turkestan’ does not define a ‘pro-independence’ position. Instead, it is used by Uyghurs wishing to assert their cultural distinctiveness from China proper. ‘Xinjiang’, meaning ‘new boundary’ or ‘new realm’, was adopted by the Manchus in the Qing dynasty (1644-1911) and reflects the perspective of those who gave it this name. East Turkestan is the historic name of the region, which was invaded and occupied by the Manchus in 1884.
Uyghurs have struggled to preserve their identity in the face of an onslaught of government campaigns to Sinicize them and demonize their belief in Islam. Uyghurs’ assertions of their distinct ethnic identity are branded as “unpatriotic”. Uyghurs’ religious practices are tightly controlled by the state, and Chinese officials have suggested that even their language makes them vulnerable to terrorist influences.[ii] Uyghurs have not been given a choice in authorities’ removal of Uyghur as a language of instruction at all levels of education in East Turkestan.[iii] Residents of Kashgar, a predominantly Uyghur city in southern East Turkestan that is viewed as the cradle of Uyghur culture and civilization, were not consulted before officials launched the demolition of Kashgar’s Old City and began destroying traditional patterns of Uyghur life.[iv] Moreover, Uyghurs are not consulted in development projects designed by government authorities to raise the standard of living in East Turkestan, and they therefore reap few of the benefits engendered by such development.
An additional factor to consider when examining the merits of the term “Chinese Muslim” with respect to Uyghurs is the fact that a significant number of Uyghurs believe in Christianity. Christian Uyghurs also face harsh persecution at the hands of Chinese government authorities, as can be seen most prominently in the cases of Alimjan Yimit and Osman Imin, two Uyghurs who were recently imprisoned for preaching Christianity.[v]
Outside of East Turkestan, there are significant populations of Uyghurs located in Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, Mongolia, Turkey, Australia, Germany and other European countries, Canada and the United States.
[i] The Uyghur people who live in East Turkestan are the descendants of the nomadic herders and oasis-based people who have lived in the region for thousands of years. Before the 20th century, there was no sizeable Han Chinese population in East Turkestan. See: United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People and the Uyghurs of East Turkestan (also known as the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region or XUAR, People’s Republic of China), Uyghur Human Rights Project, available at: http://docs.uyghuramerican.org/UNDRIP10-2-09.pdf
[ii] UAA concerned by top Chinese official’s comments on language policy in East Turkestan, available at: http://www.uhrp.org/articles/2232/1/UAA-concerned-by-top-Chinese-officials-comments-on-language-policy-in-East-Turkestan-/index.html.
[iii] Uyghur Language Under Attack: The Myth of “Bilingual” Education in the People’s Republic of China, available at: http://uhrp.org/docs/UyghurLanguageUnderAttack.pdf
[iv] Bulldozers reducing Kashgar Old City to rubble, available at: http://www.uhrp.org/articles/2316/1/Bulldozers-reducing-Kashgar-Old-City-to-rubble-/index.html; and Kashgar demolition is a “serious political issue”: official document reveals aggressive nature of propaganda work used to enforce Kashgar resettlement, available at: http://www.uhrp.org/articles/2348/1/Kashgar-demolition-is-a-quotserious-political-issuequot-official-document-reveals-aggressive-nature-of-propaganda-work-used-to-enforce-Kashgar-resettlement-/index.html
[v] See Religious Persecution Case of Alimjan Yimit, Uyghur Christian Church Leader, Xinjiang, China, China Aid Association, December 23, 2009, available at: http://www.chinaaid.org/downloads/sb_chinaaid/23wedits.pdf.