Half an hour after 900 students filed out of the Chesapeake room in the Sadler Center, Girl Talk, also known as Gregg Gillis, welcomed Variety Editor Ashley Morgan and Associate News Editor Maggie Reeb into his dressing room wearing only his boxers. A half-eaten Symphony bar rested on the table where Gillis had been sitting, and a tall man with long hair and a Led Zeppelin T-shirt scrambled to pack up gear. Gillis — still sweating from the concert and with visibly damp hair — smiled warmly and asked the reporters to take a seat while he pulled out a pair of sweatpants from a single suitcase. After putting on a minimal amount of clothes, he sat down, popped open a Corona, and answered some of our questions.
**How was the performance tonight? How was the audience?**
The audience was cool – at the beginning, there was a woman next to me that I loved. She was wonderful. I didn’t meet her; I just thought she danced really well. I liked her enthusiasm. No, everyone was really cool. No one was, like, overly aggressive or anything like that. People were fired up, it was cool.
**I saw a lot of people onstage with you. Do people just jump up there?**
Yeah, it’s kind of become the etiquette, in a certain way … I don’t know, like, if anyone here has seen me play or not, but I think it’s something that, if you are going to the show, you may know about me. Like if you are going to the Rancid concert, you may know there is going to be some moshing.
**Do you play at a lot of small venues like this, or do you mostly play at big venues?**
I think the last time I toured the United States the average was like 1,500. So that was maybe double this; the venue probably could have fit 1,500 but they only let in like 8 to 900. This wasn’t necessarily small considering the large scope of shows. I spent many years playing shows to, like, 10 people. But right now it’s like most colleges are around 1,500, so this was on the smaller side, but not tiny by any means.
**Do you like playing the smaller shows more than the bigger ones?**
Yeah … It’s a bit more stress-free. You can control it. I like to just hang out with people, get people onstage and get in the audience and stuff like that. At the bigger shows where you give them that freedom, the chance of it being complete chaos increases. I think the bigger shows can be amazing; [they] can transcend the need for intimacy. But the smaller shows are easier and more fun. For me, it’s kind of where this whole thing developed from – a lot of smaller shows. I would love to play shows for 10 people at a time. I think it would be very cool, but that’s not possible. The smaller it is the more relaxed I am.
**Are you on tour right now?**
Kind of. I mean, I don’t know what you would define as a tour, but I would consider myself on tour for, like, the last three years or so, just, like, going home a lot. So, I have shows Thursday, Friday, Saturday of this week, and then last week I had shows Friday and Saturday, so I had four days off … Next week I have shows Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. So most weeks I do weekend shows … I don’t know if that qualifies as a tour, but I am in a steady stream of playing shows. So really, maybe, like, three weeks off has been the most I’ve had in the past three years.
**Where are you off to next?**
We are going to Philadelphia tomorrow. This is sort of a college weekend, so we are playing at University of Pennsylvania.
**And you said that you tour outside of the United States.**
Yeah, I went to Australia about two or three weeks ago, and we are going to Europe in a couple of weeks. I’ve also been to Japan and Brazil.
**How much recognition do you have outside of the country?**
Australia is very similar to the United States, maybe a bit smaller. So I would say that [in] the major cities there I play shows for 1,000 people rather than 1,500 … In Europe it’s been smaller in the past, but I haven’t been over there since I released my last album. But I heard that that it got a lot more publicity than my last album. And we are going over there in literally two weeks, so we will see how it goes. I also heard the London show sold out pretty quickly, so I think that people know it. I mean, when I go to Brazil, they have a lot of people there who are paying attention to music in the other parts of the world, promoters, but that does not necessarily reflect what the people listen to. So I think when I played there, no one knew me, but they put me in the setting where they have thousands of people … You know, festivals and things like that.
**Did you know the concert here sold out in two days?**
I heard. Yeah, the college shows I have been doing lately have all been very enthusiastic as far as the turnout, which is cool. I’ve had a nice turnout for the past year or two of most of the shows selling out, which I am extremely grateful for because, again, I have had many years of playing shows to no one really giving a fuck.
**What’s the coolest place you have ever performed?**
I [think] Brazil was the craziest shit I’ve ever played in. Japan’s amazing, too. Brazil was just insane to experience. Their take on everything is very exciting and refreshing to me. Venue-wise, I don’t know. I think the coolest venue I’ve played in the United States has been Red Rocks outside of Denver Colorado. It’s kind of a famous natural amphitheatre. I opened up for Blues Traveler on the 4th of July, and they put me on as soon as they opened [the] doors, thinking I would kind of play background music. But I’ve never really played background music; I kind of just do my show regardless of who’s there. So I was kind of shirtless and sweaty by the time 10 people were in this amphitheatre, which could fit like 5,000. So that was kind of amazing. It’s beautiful. It’s kind of this classic place; everyone’s kind of played there. Everyone has rocked Red Rocks. It was cool to be a part of that tradition in such a shitty way. I was very excited about that.
**Do you do a lot of shows with other artists?**
I don’t do too many opening spots. I mean, I get offers, and I’m into that. It’s just kind of the nature of a show more so than a traditional band is. Like, I want it to be a closing thing. I want it to be completely balls out the entire time. It’s a weird feeling when people are getting onstage. Everyone is sweating, everyone’s going crazy, and regardless of me. I’m not saying I’m better than anyone or worse than anyone, it’s just a different vibe, more of a party vibe. So when it becomes a dance party [it] usually works as a closing thing. So a lot of times if I open up for a different artist, it’s just a weird thing. Even if people don’t know me, it’s kind of a weird context for it, as well. I used to open up for people all the time back in the day, but now that I kind of have my own calling, I avoid that when I can. But I tour with a lot of my friends’ bands and things like that. The past year, I opened for Bone Thugs and Harmony, which was an honor. That was about the coolest band in the world for me to play with – one of my favorites. Coming up, I’m doing some college shows with some bigger artists. I’m playing a show with Three 6 Mafia. I’m looking forward to that. The shows depend on the context much more so than a traditional band. It’s weird, just like the Red Rocks thing, to just get up there. Like if you were Katy Perry and you were, like, playing at Red Rocks, it would probably still be pretty normal. It would be kind of boring, but it wouldn’t be completely awkward and nuts. [Whereas] me playing at Red Rocks for people was completely awkward. So because it is so dependent on the context, I am kind of specific about where I’m playing.
**It sounds like you exhaust the audience.**
Yeah. And if people don’t know me, I’m open to trying that out, but it’s like, right now, there is such a demand for the show, which I’ve never had before outside of a year or two … I would rather play a show to an enthusiastic 40 people than open up for, like, 10,000 people who don’t give a damn. And I like working a crowd that doesn’t know me; it’s kind of like what I’ve been used to in the past. But it’s kind of a headache. Like last year I played 150 shows, so I’m on the road for over half of the year, so, it’s a bit hard to imagine that and imagine playing a shitty show over a fun one … It’s frustrating when you’re on your 20th show that month and then you have to deal with this audience that doesn’t give a damn. Its more annoying now that I play more shows, I think.
**What’s your worst disaster?**
Oh man, there are many. There are kind of two different worlds to this project. Before the album “Night Ripper,” – which was released in 2006 – and after, because that literally had the tiny cult following. And back then, shows – a lot of them were cool and fun, but sometimes I played in some shitty spots. I’d play in a house were drugs addicts were living and stuff like that. So, not always, but the chance for insanity is there. I’ve had a lot of shows where there [are], like, people literally unplugging the computer, like, trying to start a fight with me while I’m playing, and stuff like that. So that was very common in, like, 2003 to 2006 … But now it’s more on the technical end. Sometimes something will get unplugged or something will get damaged. I don’t like that, I don’t want that, but sometimes it’s not always a negative thing for the show. Sometimes, it’s a cool, nice, like, builds a dramatic arc to it. Like if the music has to stop and people are like, “Boo,” and then if you get it going, and the high that they ride from that is more intense than you could have created naturally. So it’s not always a negative thing when things kind of go bad. The past few years I really haven’t had a really horrible show. I mean, the Blues Traveler one kind of springs to mind. But other than that, I have been very fortunate to have interested fans. I have been very fortunate to have that – people psyched to come on to the shows.
**How many laptops do you go through in a year?**
I bought some tough books that are these Panasonic things that are for military use, so you can smash them and pour water on them and things. So I broke maybe four in 2007, but last year we got it down to a science on how to do the shows. So this whole process has become very fine-tuned. The shows started being a lot bigger than I was used to, and the shows would get completely destroyed within minutes. They would kind of implode. So over the last couple of years we have kind of fine-tuned the science of making sure shit does not get completely fucked up.
**Do you keep all of your music and mashing equipment on just the one laptop?**
I have it on a lot of stuff; I back it up a few times. I really play off of one computer, but I have two up there just in case something goes down. You know, of course, I back everything up at home. I mean, with the nature of the show, someone might get on the table at the end of the performance, or something like that, and there might be a high heel through the screen, or something like that. And I’m open to that. I mean, I invited that on, so if it goes down, that’s the natural way. And I think that spontaneity and chaos [are] … for me at least, so exciting. There is so much routine and shit when you go see a show, you know. It’s like, “Oh, they’re supposed to play for X amount of time,” and it’s like, we’re supposed to do this and that, and we show up at this hour, and it ends at this hour, and they do this encore. And I respect the tradition of rock and roll, but I think it’s a lot of bullshit. So when you can kind of break down those walls, it’s kind of exciting.
**Do you know what you are going to play before you go onstage at every performance?**
Really it is kind of like all of the samples I trigger in real time, but all of the arrangements I rehearse beforehand. So when you hear a change in music, I am triggering different samples, and there [are] always 5 to 10 loops going. So it’s more of, like, a thing where a band – you rehearse what you are going to play, but you have subtle variations of that. You have an idea of what you are going to play. You’re not going to play exactly that, but you kind of have an idea of what you want to get through. Most of the shows I prepare more material than I want to get through. So I can kind of jump around a little bit. And I change it around every weekend. On a weekend like this, shows will be relatively similar. But I don’t want it to be like a circus trick; it’s more trial-and-error. It’s a very long process for me to see what will work. So when you are hearing a specific combination of material, those are things I’ve probably thought up beforehand, but how I get in and out of it and how I execute it changes every night. So a performance is never really identical.
**What is your favorite mash-up combination that you have come up with so far?**
I mean, maybe if I had never met anyone I would have a different opinion on this, but I feel like people [who] come out to the shows and people who have bought the album respond really well to a combination from the album “Night Ripper” that is the drums from Nirvana and Elton John’s “Tiny Dancer” and Notorious B.I.G.’s “Juicy.” And that is from that album kind of selected as almost a single. A lot of people took to that. For all the shows that I would drop into the elements of that, people would get really into that, and that is one thing for the past two-and-a-half years that I try to play almost every show. And I feel like if there was to be a hit single from what I am doing, that would potentially be it. To me, I make the albums as a whole. I think about them as a whole piece. I judge the albums against each other. But the way people have responded to the “Juicy” thing has made it one of my favorites – just how people are so enthusiastic about it.
**Well, you mix a lot of music in your work. Do you have a favorite genre of music?**
Yeah, I mean, I listen to everything I sample. I listen to a lot of pop music. I’m 27 so I grew up really getting into music in the ’90s, so I really like ’90s music. And that is everything from hip-hop to alternative stuff to, like, techno-pop music. That’s all my favorite shit — mostly alternative rock from the ’90s and hip-hop from the ’90s. That was, like, what I was jamming in middle school. No matter what ever exists in music, I could never love what I loved the way I did when I was in middle school. It’s like as you listen to more and more stuff you become more jaded. It’s like when you experience something when you have little experience with it you can never replicate that feeling.
**In middle school, did you think that right now, at 27, you would be a music phenomenon?**
Naw. I mean, I went to school for biomedical engineering when I was in College, and I did [well with] math and computers and stuff like that in high school. I worked in the field of engineering for awhile and … in high school I got into bands with experimental music. But as I was growing up, the bands I looked up to were in the Pittsburgh scene. No one I knew was living off of music. So I feel differently about this now than I did then. Back then, when I was young — and I don’t believe this now — I really viewed any band trying to be successful as kind of corny. If you are not trying to completely push the limits and challenge the crowd, then you are being corny … No one was really cashing in on things, people were just trying to make things as crazy as possible. So that’s kind of how I grew up making music. So at no point did I ever aspire to be living off of music. That was never an option in my mind. Now, I feel differently. I feel like it’s completely valid to start a project to get a million dollars, not that that is what I am doing. If you want to be a pop star, that is a fine thing. If you want to be a mainstream rapper, that’s fine. There is nothing more or less artistically valid. So my whole outlook on why you would want to do music has kind of changed.
**So did you just get started messing around on your computer and experimenting with music in bands?**
Yeah. I mean, I got started in this before I had a computer or I was in a band. When I was in middle school I discovered college radio, and the college radio in Pittsburgh played a lot of obscure stuff. People played whatever they wanted. I heard very weird electronic music, and it was very exciting to me based on the fact that these people had no formal training. These guys are just playing foot pedals and laptops and children’s toys and it’s a performance, and I went to the shows. So when I started the sound stuff it was prior to Girl Talk, and it was just kind of interesting performing. And I was in an experimental electronic band where we incorporated samples, and it was a lot more obscure and far out. We wouldn’t have a performance; we would, like, play four or five Forrest Gump soundtracks over each other, and we would smash TVs and set out off fireworks at the audience, and that would be a performance. But that, to me, is like the whole stepping stone to getting into this sort of thing. I experienced a lot of sample-based musicians and it was the sort of thing where no one I knew or no one I really liked in the field was making major money, unless you were, like, a hip-hop producer, which I was a fan of, but that wasn’t necessarily what I wanted to do. But yeah, when I started it was, like, super weird obscure shit.
**How did you get the name Girl Talk?**
It’s from a band from the early ’90s. They have an early seven-inch and one of the B-side tracks is called “Girl Talk.”